Duvet
Was thinking of putting this in the music section but its more to do with two channel on thinking about it and tinkering  . When browsing Tidal a lot of the current red book catalogue has remastered so maybe a lot of eighties music was shite in the mastering stakes  . Why ? Is its just marketing ploy to make us think its better or is there some real improvement  . Bowie remasters according to an ageing DJ on Pork Pie radio were a disgrace . I've toned down his real comments . 
  Has anyone done a bit of research on this just using their ears of course with originals and remasters and come to any conclusions . 
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Paul maverick
I must admit to being with the beaten up DJ on re-masters, I am lucky on Bowie as I have early pressings of the ones I really like (not always the obvious ones). I would say that my vinyl collection is very, very close to having no remasters. Not always possible with CD of course.
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Duvet
Pink Floyd were at it also when i thought all the originals were spot on and the re-issue of Amused to Death by Waters on Vinyl . I prefer the original . Yes I have a copy or two 😁
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Bazzer
Duvet wrote:
Yes I have a copy or two ðŸ˜


Well who'd have thunk it ðŸ˜„
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Bazzer
I tend to check out the Steve Hoffman forum when researching a best copy/remaster etc, they are all fanatics on there .
I've got the all the Bowie remasters on CD  I haven't compared them with original CDs . Some artists I think didn't really think about the quality when recording , studio time was restricted , too expensive and they just got in there to get a record out .
I read a lot of music autobiographies and particularity when bands are starting out the tracks are rushed , so is the recording and you were probably lucky if you had a shit hot producer at the mixing desk. 
Bands like YES would have a two week window during touring and have to record an album.
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Paul maverick
Bazox wrote:
I tend to check out the Steve Hoffman forum when researching a best copy/remaster etc, they are all fanatics on there .
I've got the all the Bowie remasters on CD  I haven't compared them with original CDs . Some artists I think didn't really think about the quality when recording , studio time was restricted , too expensive and they just got in there to get a record out .
I read a lot of music autobiographies and particularity when bands are starting out the tracks are rushed , so is the recording and you were probably lucky if you had a shit hot producer at the mixing desk. 
Bands like YES would have a two week window during touring and have to record an album.
not always 2 weeks well spent ðŸ˜…
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Colin w
I think there are a few reasons to re master, some because the original conversion to CD was bloody diabolical, some because the engineer did not have the time to do a decent job before committing it to a vinyl master. Unfortunately there are a large number of remasters that are at best no better than the original. The biggest reason to remaster seems to be a way of getting a bunch of ageing numpties to open their wallets to re purchase music they already own. When it comes to paying over the odds for Re-Masters, Japanese pressings, 45 rpm albums, heavy weight vinyl I think we have lost track of why we started in this stupid game. I bought my first system to  be able to enjoy the music a bit more. It seems to have become more about the ''system'' or a pissing up the wall contests, and to be honest. I have very little interest in either.  
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Bazzer
Colin w wrote:
The biggest reason to remaster seems to be a way of getting a bunch of ageing numpties to open their wallets to re purchase music they already own. 


😂 On the money there Colin .
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Paul maverick
Colin w wrote:
The biggest reason to remaster seems to be a way of getting a bunch of ageing numpties to open their wallets to re purchase music they already own.

not always the old, when cassettes arrived the then young (what did we call them? not hipsters) re-purchased everything on cassette, a little while later the same with CDs - these fads passed me by until they stopped releasing on vinyl and I reluctantly bought a CD player . . . never sold any vinyl, have given some away, CDs now ripped but not sold
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not always the old, when cassettes arrived the then young (what did we call them? not hipsters) re-purchased everything on cassette, a little while later the same with CDs - these fads passed me by until they stopped releasing on vinyl and I reluctantly bought a CD player . . . never sold any vinyl, have given some away, CDs now ripped but not sold


did they? I only used cassettes for the car, usually **shock - horror** home taped. I avoided CD for as long as I could, eventually gave in and bought a 1 bit player. Now I don't care what medium carries it, as long as music comes out the end.😄
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Paul maverick
Colin wrote:
did they? I only used cassettes for the car, usually **shock - horror** home taped.
well a lot of the lot working for me did

Colin wrote:
did they? I only used cassettes for the car, usually **shock - horror** home taped.

me 2 as that was where most of my listening was done 

Colin wrote:
Now I don't care what medium carries it, as long as music comes out the end.😄
I still find vinyl in the car a challenge 
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Paul maverick
actually my car doesn't have a CD player and only accepts MP3s grrrrrrrrrrrr
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